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Another interview, another train wreck

I’m too physically weak at the moment to address all the problems with this one, but do read it for yourself.

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October 1, 2013 - Posted by | Catholic Faith, Catholic News, Catholicism

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  1. Are you ok?

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    Comment by Bruce | October 1, 2013 | Reply

  2. According to a strong critic of piece, at least one section is badly-translated. The incarnation of Jesus section should read like this:

    “A better rendering would be, ‘The Son of God incarnated himself in order to infuse in the soul of men the sentiment of fraternity.'”

    But, yeah, train-wreck. Poor Jimmy Akin should be getting combat pay at this point.

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    Comment by Dale Price | October 1, 2013 | Reply

  3. Bruce, I’m bedridden and medicated trying to pass the mother of all kidney stones!

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 1, 2013 | Reply

    • Oh, kidney stone. Yeah they are the mother of something. Hope it passes quickly.

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      Comment by Zippy | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  4. Dale, this interview is even more astonishing to me. Most of the answers could have been given by Rowan Williams.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 1, 2013 | Reply

  5. Yeah, as another put it, we can’t keep up with the damage control needed. At this point I’m just trying to cultivate whatever tiny patches of soil I can and hope the gratuitously emboldened don’t tramp on it.

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    Comment by Scott W. | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  6. One of many choice quotes:

    “Vatican II, inspired by Pope John and Paul VI, decided to look to the future with a modern spirit and to open [the church] to modern culture. The Council fathers knew that opening to modern culture meant religious ecumenism and dialogue with non believers. After then very little was done in that direction. I have the humility and ambition to want to do it.”

    This is the first “I have the humility” statement I have ever seen that wasn’t intended to be humorous and self-refuting! Coupled with “ambition”, it absolutely takes the cake.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  7. A few more favorites:

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    “Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense.”

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    “The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old … This, to me, is the most urgent problem that the Church is facing.”

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    “Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.”

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    Mr. Scalfari: “Jesus in his preaching said that agape, love for others, is the only way to love God. Correct me if I’m wrong.”

    Pope Francis: “You’re not wrong. The Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood. All are brothers and all children of God. Abba, as he called the Father. I will show you the way, he said. Follow me and you will find the Father and you will all be his children and he will take delight in you. Agape, the love of each one of us for the other, from the closest to the furthest, is in fact the only way that Jesus has given us to find the way of salvation and of the Beatitudes. ”

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    “The mystic manages to strip himself of action, of facts, objectives and even the pastoral mission and rises until he reaches communion with the Beatitudes.”

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    “And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator.”

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  8. Scott, that’s a good approach, but you might also consider warning others that the “gratuitously emboldened” now have marching orders.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  9. These are all so dreadful (even granting that, as seems plausible, the phrase “in the souls of men” was moved to the wrong spot in the translation about the Incarnation) that it’s hard to pick an anti-favorite, but perversely, and just because it isn’t one of the ones being discussed most, I’ll pick the one about youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old being the most serious evils in the world right now. It almost makes one gasp. Really? The most serious evils in the world?

    Prayers for a speedy recovery for you.

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    Comment by Lydia | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  10. Thanks, Zippy. Sounds like you speak from experience. I’ve had stones before, but never like this. Ain’t nothing like it in the world.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  11. Lydia, I actually agree with your pick. The pope’s answer took my breath away. The biggest problem facing the Church today is a crisis of faith and the loss of souls. There isn’t even a close second. Restore the Faith and the rest will take care of itself.

    Thanks very much for the prayers!

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  12. I note that the SSPX has been strangely silent about Pope Francis’ many bizarre statements and interviews. Normally, they are not at a loss for words when things like this happen.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  13. Re SSPX’s strange silence, a possibly relevant quote from Napoleon: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

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    Comment by cyrillist | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  14. Yes, it is much worse than the first. Makes the Jesuit interview look positively comforting by comparison.

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    Comment by Dale Price | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  15. And I hope and pray that you get well soon.

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    Comment by Dale Price | October 2, 2013 | Reply

  16. I can hardly wait for Friday … http://stlouiscatholic.blogspot.com/2013/10/get-ready-to.html

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 3, 2013 | Reply

  17. Thank you, Dale. Prayers are truly appreciated. The outlook is maybe surgery next week, maybe not, depending. But these meds are starting to make me loopy.

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 3, 2013 | Reply

  18. For those kindhearted souls who have generously prayed for my health, I believe the sharp nasty little monster has finally passed … this afternoon at 12:30pm, give or take. I delivered the specimen to my urologist with great joy. God bless you all.

    Let’s pray for the Church and for all Christians, rededicate ourselves to penance and conversion, and immerse ourselves in the teachings Our Lord has so lovingly handed down to us these past centuries. Dale – hard liquor might help you survive this pontificate, and I suppose it’s better than joining the nuns on the bus, but then what kind of shape will you be in when it’s over? ;-)

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    Comment by Blogmaster | October 5, 2013 | Reply

  19. Rest assured, Jeff, that port is not my primary coping mechanism. St. Francis de Sales is helping me out rather a bit, as is knowing that I am not alone in my concern.

    Very glad to hear you have gotten rid of the thorn in the flesh. Yikes, I don’t envy anyone on that.

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    Comment by Dale Price | October 7, 2013 | Reply


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