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A father goes to jail

Here’s the story of the Parker family (video) of Massachusetts – coming soon to California if Prop 8 fails.

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October 7, 2008 - Posted by | Uncategorized

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  1. Jeff –

    The father who went to jail was arrested because he lost his temper and refused to leave school grounds when requested to do so. You (and he) thought his anger was justified, and might consider it civil disobedience. But he wasn’t arrested because he didn’t like his kids being taught something he disagreed with, he was arrested because he was being belligerent.

    Now, in terms of what kids are taught in school, Prop 8 has NOTHING to do with the education code. The California Education Code requires that students be taught the legal obligations and responsibilities related to marriage. This can easily be done without reference to a married couple’s genders.

    And if that’s not enough, YOU get to teach your kids your values about marriage. And I think you have a lot more influence over them than their teachers do. What my parents taught me — what my mother STILL teaches me — is always with me. What my teachers said has mostly been forgotten. If Prop 8 passes and the kids ask about same-sex marriage, parents can say something like: “Mommy and Daddy believe very strongly that only a man and a woman should be able to get married. That’s the way it is in our church, too. But not everyone believes the same way we do. Some people don’t get married in a church. Even people who DO get married in church have to have a civil marriage license. That’s a piece of paper that is issued by the state that says it’s OK to be married. Almost every man who marries, marries a woman. But some men fall in love with another man, and some women fall in love with another woman. We think that’s wrong, but the law says it’s OK for them to marry. There are lots of laws that your daddy and I disagree with, but because we are good citizens, we follow all the laws, even the ones we don’t agree with.”

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    Comment by Mistereks | October 7, 2008 | Reply

  2. I was predicting flak about the reason he was arrested, but this misses the larger point: as long as there are people out there holding that same-sex union/marriage is the perverse lie that it is, they are intolerable to progressives, who will do anything to intimidate others into affirming its goodness they’ve tried to make it into by legislative fiat. The flap in Massachusettes is just a taste of the coming onslaught. Do I really have to mention what the Christian’s response to an immoral law is supposed to be? (Hint: It ain’t, “we follow all the laws, even the ones we don’t agree with.”)

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    Comment by Scott W. | October 7, 2008 | Reply

  3. By the way, here’s an article if you don’t want/can’t get video: http://www.massresistance.org/docs/parker/main.html

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    Comment by Scott W. | October 7, 2008 | Reply

  4. “The father who went to jail was arrested because he lost his temper and refused to leave school grounds when requested to do so.”

    I don’t know about losing his temper – I must have missed that part – but he did refuse to leave school grounds when asked to do so. Was he justified in doing so? Absolutely. The point is that the school – and by extension the state – would rather send parents to jail than compromise its absolute “right” to indoctrinate kindergartners in homosexuality.

    “Now, in terms of what kids are taught in school, Prop 8 has NOTHING to do with the education code.”

    False. The Supreme Court misruling effects EVERY law, regulation, and ordinance in the state that references marriage or is even tangentially related to marriage.

    “The California Education Code requires that students be taught the legal obligations and responsibilities related to marriage. This can easily be done without reference to a married couple’s genders.”

    No, it cannot. Marriage is all about “the married couple’s genders”. To omit any reference to “gender” in teaching about marriage is to redefine marriage itself.

    “And if that’s not enough, YOU get to teach your kids your values about marriage. And I think you have a lot more influence over them than their teachers do.”

    Teaching isn’t enough, Mistereks. For a child to internalize the teaching of some truth, it must be supported by the culture in which he lives. If kids are receiving homosexual agiprop for six-to-seven hours at school every day, if they are watching the GLBT clubs on campus, if they are constantly subjected to GLBT messages on t-shirts and posters and bathroom walls, if they are taught in the classroom that “gender” has nothing to do with marriage, etc., – in other words, if the place where they spend the majority of their waking hours has normalized homosexuality, then parental influence on this point is substantially weakened.

    ” … parents can say something like: ‘Mommy and Daddy believe very strongly that only a man and a woman should be able to get married. That’s the way it is in our church, too. But not everyone believes the same way we do. Some people don’t get married in a church. Even people who DO get married in church have to have a civil marriage license. That’s a piece of paper that is issued by the state that says it’s OK to be married. Almost every man who marries, marries a woman. But some men fall in love with another man, and some women fall in love with another woman. We think that’s wrong, but the law says it’s OK for them to marry. There are lots of laws that your daddy and I disagree with, but because we are good citizens, we follow all the laws, even the ones we don’t agree with.’”

    With all due respect, you are completely out of your mind. The day I tell my kids that “some men fall in love with another man, and some women fall in love with another woman” is the day I have ceased to love my own children, the day I have renounced fatherhood. To pollute the imaginations of children in this way is nothing other than child abuse. And that’s what the State of California is doing: abusing our children, and attempting to turn all parents and teachers into abusers of children.

    By the way, it appears that you aren’t a Californian so I will correct your understanding of Prop 8. The CA Supreme Court declared recently that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right. Prop 8 is an attempt to void this ruling.

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    Comment by Jeff Culbreath | October 8, 2008 | Reply

  5. It is my opinion that the parents should immediately have taken their kids out of the public schools when the boy came home with this “diversity bag,” rather than trying to force the school to “acommodate” them. After all, any accommodation would be just window dressing. The entire atmosphere of the school, and the mentality of their peers, would be affected by what was being taught. Home schooling is legal in Massachusetts, as in every state. I just don’t happen to know the specifics of the law. Moreover, the child was only in kindergarten, and in many states, kindergarten isn’t even mandatory. You don’t just leave your kid in a sodomy-endorsing school to make a point while you have a fight with the school superintendent to try to force him not to make sodomy mainstream, when obviously he is bound and determined to make it mainstream.

    The main legal point of interest in this whole story is one I found on another site and am thinking of blogging about: Evidently there is on the books a Massachusetts law that expressly states that discussions of human sexuality, sexual issues, something like that, require parental consent and an opt-out provision. Evidently one of the superintendent’s arguments was that he did not have to apply that law to this book that was sent home with the child (_Who’s in the Family?_), because this was not “sexuality” but rather “real life.” And he also emphasized that homosexual “marriage” is legal in Massachusetts. In other words, as I read it, the legislature had already passed a law to try to get these controversial sexual issues back into the hands of the parents and stop indoctrination on them from being pushed on the kids in public schools, but that was considered irrelevant to homosexuality once gay “marriage” was recognized in the state. That’s actually rather significant from a legal point of view.

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    Comment by Lydia | October 8, 2008 | Reply


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